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Всем привет. Вот смотрю на базе l2p.l2wh.com в разделе заточек, фантом сумонер, там никаких таблиц по заточке тп, кубиков нет. где взять инфу по заточке по скилам, которые там отсутствуют?

[Stavr]

Quote: Originally Posted by nikolas30rus

Originally Posted by nikolas30rus:

Всем привет. Вот смотрю на базе l2p.l2wh.com в разделе заточек, фантом сумонер, там никаких таблиц по заточке тп, кубиков нет. где взять инфу по заточке по скилам, которые там отсутствуют?

l2p скончался во времена Интерлюда, на данный момент это ископаемое.
Информацию по заточкам лучше всего брать у производящего заточку НПЦ... ну или на форумах искать внимательно. В этом разделе (в этой и паре соседних тем) практически все заточки скиллов варлока сотни раз обсосанны.

[skroll_renamed_47796_14062020]

он не варлок...внимательней прочти что он написал )

[Satty]

ну вообще-то давая ссылку сюда, я имела в виду, чтобы они вас читали, а не чтобы они у вас спрашивали про ФСов)))

С заточкой квины лвл бафов растет ?

[Terentich_renamed_660206_15112019]

нет.По моему растет тока длительность этих бафов

i lvl

растет лвл баффов, больший лвл = большая длительность, эффект не увеличивается хоть на +30 точи

[skroll_renamed_47796_14062020]

растет% снятия дебаффов.(правда варлок мало что умеет снимать,ES этом плане круче)

По-моему варлоки юзали скилл снятия дебаффов исключительно на РБ в варке, и то, только для того, чтоб показать, что у варлока есть такой скилл, а не потому, что этот дебафф как-то мешал убивать РБ.

[skroll_renamed_47796_14062020]

я на ПВП всегда использовал.один из скилов shackle который и проходит хорошо и прилично снижает атаку.А кому еще WB кидали вообще стрелял как эстонец.
Собственно я и точил ради этого,а не ради времени т.к иногда дебафф снимается раза с 3-4 c beast bsps,а маны он прилично жрет.

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Fast Spell Casting +3 дал +2 к каст спиду

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Вчера поставил грацию финал, на всех скилах в % написан их эффект, поэтому собрать информацию по заточке скилов теперь проще.
Fast Spell Casting - базовый дает +10% к каст спиду
у меня Fast Spell Casting +3 дает +10,3% к каст спиду (соответственно каждая заточка этого скила дает +0.1% к каст спиду)

Summon lore +1 (заточил и пожалел о потраченном SP). Заточка дала +1 п деф (в робе) и +8 каст спида (т.к. откат скилов фиксирован, эта прибавка к касту ниочем, а +1 п дефа это просто смешно)

[RedHood]

Пассивки:


M. Def. increases by 108 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%

+1 - M. Def. increases by 113 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+2 - M. Def. increases by 114 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+3 - M. Def. increases by 115 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+4 - M. Def. increases by 115 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+5 - M. Def. increases by 116 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+6 - M. Def. increases by 117 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+7 - M. Def. increases by 117 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+8 - M. Def. increases by 118 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+9 - M. Def. increases by 119 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+10 - M. Def. increases by 119 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+11 - M. Def. increases by 120 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+12 - M. Def. increases by 121 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+13 - M. Def. increases by 121 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+14 - M. Def. increases by 122 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+15 - M. Def. increases by 123 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+16 - M. Def. increases by 123 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+17 - M. Def. increases by 124 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+18 - M. Def. increases by 125 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+19 - M. Def. increases by 125 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+20 - M. Def. increases by 126 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+21 - M. Def. increases by 127 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+22 - M. Def. increases by 127 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+23 - M. Def. increases by 128 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+24 - M. Def. increases by 129 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+25 - M. Def. increases by 129 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+26 - M. Def. increases by 130 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+27 - M. Def. increases by 131 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+28 - M. Def. increases by 131 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+29 - M. Def. increases by 132 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.
+30 - M. Def. increases by 133 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%.



Max MP increases by 200.

+1 - Max MP increases by 203.
+2 - Max MP increases by 206.
+3 - Max MP increases by 210.
+4 - Max MP increases by 213.
+5 - Max MP increases by 216.
+6 - Max MP increases by 220.
+7 - Max MP increases by 223.
+8 - Max MP increases by 226.
+9 - Max MP increases by 230.
+10 - Max MP increases by 233.
+11 - Max MP increases by 236.
+12 - Max MP increases by 240.
+13 - Max MP increases by 243.
+14 - Max MP increases by 246.
+15 - Max MP increases by 250.
+16 - Max MP increases by 253.
+17 - Max MP increases by 256.
+18 - Max MP increases by 260.
+19 - Max MP increases by 263.
+20 - Max MP increases by 266.
+21 - Max MP increases by 270.
+22 - Max MP increases by 273.
+23 - Max MP increases by 276.
+24 - Max MP increases by 280.
+25 - Max MP increases by 283.
+26 - Max MP increases by 286.
+27 - Max MP increases by 290.
+28 - Max MP increases by 293.
+29 - Max MP increases by 296.
+30 - Max MP increases by 300.



MP recovery bonus increases by 3.4

+1 - MP recovery bonus increases by 4.
+2 - MP recovery bonus increases by 4.
+3 - MP recovery bonus increases by 4.
<...>
+15 - MP recovery bonus increases by 5.
+16 - MP recovery bonus increases by 5.
+17 - MP recovery bonus increases by 5.
<...>
+30 - MP recovery bonus increases by 6.



Casting Spd. increases by 10%.

+1 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.1%.
+2 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.2%.
+3 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.3%.
+4 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.4%.
+5 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.5%.
+6 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.6%.
+7 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.7%.
+8 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.8%.
+9 - Casting Spd. increases by 10.9%.
+10 - Casting Spd. increases by 11%.
<...>
+20 - Casting Spd. increases by 12%.
<...>
+30 - Casting Spd. increases by 13%.



P. Def. increases by 55.2 when a robe is equipped.

1. Enchant Power: Increases P. Def.

+1 - P. Def. increases by 58 when a robe is equipped.
+2 - P. Def. increases by 58 when a robe is equipped.
+3 - P. Def. increases by 59 when a robe is equipped.
+4 - P. Def. increases by 59 when a robe is equipped.
+5 - P. Def. increases by 59 when a robe is equipped.
+6 - P. Def. increases by 60 when a robe is equipped.
+7 - P. Def. increases by 60 when a robe is equipped.
+8 - P. Def. increases by 61 when a robe is equipped.
+9 - P. Def. increases by 61 when a robe is equipped.
+10 - P. Def. increases by 61 when a robe is equipped.
+11 - P. Def. increases by 62 when a robe is equipped.
+12 - P. Def. increases by 62 when a robe is equipped.
+13 - P. Def. increases by 63 when a robe is equipped.
+14 - P. Def. increases by 63 when a robe is equipped.
+15 - P. Def. increases by 63 when a robe is equipped.
+16 - P. Def. increases by 64 when a robe is equipped.
+17 - P. Def. increases by 64 when a robe is equipped.
+18 - P. Def. increases by 65 when a robe is equipped.
+19 - P. Def. increases by 65 when a robe is equipped.
+20 - P. Def. increases by 65 when a robe is equipped.
+21 - P. Def. increases by 66 when a robe is equipped.
+22 - P. Def. increases by 66 when a robe is equipped.
+23 - P. Def. increases by 67 when a robe is equipped.
+24 - P. Def. increases by 67 when a robe is equipped.
+25 - P. Def. increases by 67 when a robe is equipped.
+26 - P. Def. increases by 68 when a robe is equipped.
+27 - P. Def. increases by 68 when a robe is equipped.
+28 - P. Def. increases by 69 when a robe is equipped.
+29 - P. Def. increases by 69 when a robe is equipped.
+30 - P. Def. increases by 69 when a robe is equipped.

2. Enchant Mana: Increases MP regeneration while sitting down.
Нет точных данных в цифрах.

3. Enchant Magic Defense: Increases M. Def.
Нет точных данных в цифрах.



When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.

1. Enchant Power: Increases P. Def./Casting Spd. when wearing robe.

+1 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 61 and Casting Spd. by 8%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+2 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 62 and Casting Spd. by 8.1%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+3 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 63 and Casting Spd. by 8.2%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+4 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 64 and Casting Spd. by 8.2%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+5 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 65 and Casting Spd. by 8.3%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+6 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 66 and Casting Spd. by 8.4%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+7 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 67 and Casting Spd. by 8.4%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+8 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 68 and Casting Spd. by 8.5%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+9 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 69 and Casting Spd. by 8.6%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+10 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 70 and Casting Spd. by 8.6%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+11 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 71 and Casting Spd. by 8.7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+12 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 72 and Casting Spd. by 8.8%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+13 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 73 and Casting Spd. by 8.8%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+14 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 74 and Casting Spd. by 8.9%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+15 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 80 and Casting Spd. by 5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 75 and Casting Spd. by 9%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.

2. Enchant Power: Increases P. Def./Casting Spd. when wearing light armor.

+1 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 82 and Casting Spd. by 5.1%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+2 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 84 and Casting Spd. by 5.2%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+3 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 86 and Casting Spd. by 5.4%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+4 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 88 and Casting Spd. by 5.5%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+5 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 90 and Casting Spd. by 5.6%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+6 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 92 and Casting Spd. by 5.8%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+7 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 94 and Casting Spd. by 5.9%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+8 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 96 and Casting Spd. by 6%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+9 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 98 and Casting Spd. by 6.2%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+10 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 100 and Casting Spd. by 6.3%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+11 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 102 and Casting Spd. by 6.4%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+12 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 104 and Casting Spd. by 6.6%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+13 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 106 and Casting Spd. by 6.7%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+14 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 108 and Casting Spd. by 6.8%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.
+15 - When wearing light armor, increases P. Def. by 110 and Casting Spd. by 7%. When wearing a robe, increases P. Def. by 60 and Casting Spd. by 7%, and decreases MP consumption for magic skills by 3%.



Increases resistance to hold, sleep and altered state mind attacks by 20.

1. Enchant Power: Increases mental attack resistance.

+1 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 22.
+2 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 24.
+3 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 26.
+4 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 28.
+5 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 30.
+6 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 32.
+7 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 34.
+8 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 36.
+9 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 38.
+10 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 40.
+11 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 42.
+12 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 44.
+13 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 46.
+14 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 48.
+15 - Increases resistance to hold/sleep attacks by 20. Increases resistance to abnormal mind attacks by 50.

2. Enchant Power: Increases hold resistance.

+1 - Increases resistance to sleep and altered state mind attacks by 20. Increases resistance to hold by 22.
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+15 - Increases resistance to sleep and altered state mind attacks by 20. Increases resistance to hold by 50.

3. Enchant Power: Increases sleep resistance.

+1 - Increases resistance to hold and altered state mind attacks by 20. Increases resistance to sleep by 22.
<...>
+15 - Increases resistance to hold and altered state mind attacks by 20. Increases resistance to sleep by 50.

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интересует заточка роб мастери на м деф в условиях финала

[Stavr]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedHood

Originally Posted by RedHood:

M. Def. increases by 108 and resistance to damage magic increases by 30%

Во, такая-же фигня как у танков с их новым 81 скиллом. Поясните плз, это шанс ФЕЙЛА магии по тебе? Т.е. +30% это значит что если фейлились 3 из 100 нюков, то с этой пассивкой будут фейлится 4, так? Или как это работает вообще?

servitor ud +9 recovery: -2 minuti otkata (bazovo 15, s quick recovery 12, +9 - 10 minut s melochiy)

Если бы я начал ботить на Теоне еще в школе, то уже 85 с +30\15 скилами был бы давно :)

Чет захотелось запостить :)

Вот сколько я играл, так и не понял, зачем хил вообще на кост точить, когда есть талисманы. Или их уже занерфили в новом патче?

[IIync_renamed_616833_07052020]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kamill

Originally Posted by Kamill:

Чет захотелось запостить :)

я сейчас умру от зависти
кстати, а зачем ты так сильно котов точил? ну кроме квини и кинга )

[Ocagok_renamed_651860_19012020]

Затем,что он он играет уже очень давно,а Кинг появился только в ИЛе ))

[DiDu_renamed_623944_12072023]

Кэта надо точить чтобы ману лил норм хай левельному варлоку
А вот зачем мью и кай....

Quote: Originally Posted by Stein

Originally Posted by Stein:

Вот сколько я играл, так и не понял, зачем хил вообще на кост точить, когда есть талисманы. Или их уже занерфили в новом патче?

Да я в Файнал Грации и не играл на Олимпе уже. Какие талисманы ты имеешь в виду?
Кая я точил, действительно, когда Кинга еще не было, Мью, как мне правильно подсказал Сибби, хорошо подходит для боев с дестрами.

Red talisman of maximum clarity/red talisman of minimum clarity/red talisman - life force
если все это юзать то я хз как за 6 минут может закончиться мана, даже если непрерывно спамить хил